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ChrisKane Technician
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Posted: February.08.05 at 8:41pm | IP Logged
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What's the best speed? Wheel diameter?
Right now I'm using a
bench motor (1700RPM). But I have used a traditional buffing motor as
well (3400RPM). I have heard reasons for both.
1700: Slower speed works better. Safer.
3400: Faster speed works better. Faster speed is, well... faster.
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kimslava Technician
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Posted: February.15.05 at 9:19am | IP Logged
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Caswell as some good information on buffing (http://www.caswellplating.com/buffs/buffman.htm)
I
too use a bench motor for "casual" buffing. But if I have a lot of
buffing to do I use a buffing wheel (at around 3000 rpm). I feel I can
get a lot more done faster using the faster speed.
I didn't want
to spend the money for a buffing machine, so I converted a grinding
wheel machine to this purpose. You can make a simple dust hood out of a
cardboard box and hook it up to a shop vac to try and keep some of the
dust and red rouge from getting absolutely everywhere including up your
nose and into your lungs. Probably just depends on how much buffing you
are going to do.
I am looking for a good reference that gives the
grit size of all the different kinds of buffing compounds. Everything I
have found so far is not real specific.
Kim
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JeffDening Technician & Clinician
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I find the motor speed to be either complimentary or detrimental to the wheel/compound you choose.
I
have had success with both speeds but I lean towards the slower of the
2 choices. I have less problem with the wheel and part heating up
(smearing black gook everywhere) and I do not enjoy picking lint out of
my teeth. Sometimes the faster speed is nice though--such as removing
burned UMI lacquer.
I have seen a dual speed buffing motor (2
spindle) in various catalogs such as Gesswein. If I remember correctly,
the price is not that far off from the single speed units--seems like a
no brainer to me. Now I just have to wait for my current motors to die
JD
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JoePiccolo Technician
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SURFACE FEET PER MINUTE (SFM)
r.p.m X dia. of buff X 3.141818 / 12
You can purchase a tachometer at your local pawnshop for under $20.00 I have
Measure your buff and use the formula.
Enjoy
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JoePiccolo Technician
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Buffing and polishing using wheels and compounds is somewhat like using
wet and dry sandpaper, only much faster. Instead of using elbow grease,
you use the power and speed of an electric motor. The face of the wheel
is the "sanding block," which carries a thin layer of compound
(sandpaper) to the part.
The objective of buffing is to make a
rough surface smooth; however, every part does not have the same finish
and will need to be worked differently. Some divide buffing into satin
finishing; cut-down buffing for preliminary smoothness; and
cut-and-color buffing for smoothness and luster.
Satin
finishing produces satin, brushed or butler finishes on metals. Satin
finishes are produced by first buffing the work piece to a bright
finish and then dulling it to give it a softer, brushed look. These
finishes are applied using an abrasive and glue mix or greaseless
compounds.
Cut-down buffing makes surfaces smoother by
removing scratches and other marks caused by previous operations. The
workpiece should be moved against the direction of the wheel, using a
medium to hard pressure.
Color buffing further refines the
surface and brings out maximum luster. The workpiece should be moved
toward the direction of the wheel using medium to light pressure.
Buffs
are created from cotton (muslin), canvas, chamois, sisal or string.
They may be loose, sewn, ventilated or pocketed. The following list
provides descriptions of several types of buffs:
Loose buffs
have several plies of material with a row of sewing around the center
hole. These buffs are most often used for the final buffing operation
prior to plating. Because the wheel is not tightly stitched, it will
collapse, allowing cotton to get into awkward places more easily. The
best loose buffs are 100% cotton.
Sewn buffs have sections of
cloth sewn spirally, concentrically, radially, square stitched or in a
crescent pattern that runs from the center of the buff to the edge. The
stitching can be as tight as 1/8 inch to single rows that are 2-3
inches apart. Alternatively, the buffs can be spirally sewn, which is
the most common type of sewn buff. These buffs are usually used for
buffing nonferrous metals. They can also be used as coloring buffs. The
wheel is harder and more pressure can be exerted. This is useful when
cutting metal.
Bias-type buffs are probably used most often in
the industry. The cloth is cut at a 45-degree angle, wrapped about a
drum and squeezed into a clinch ring. These buffs combine flexibility
and cutting power. A weaving pattern (spacing) between the sections
provides for natural ventilation. Bias buffs can be customized to work
with various sized parts and to provide degrees of cut and color.
Folded
(pocketed) buffs have disks of material folded to form pockets that
hold compound. These buffs are mounted in one direction for cutting and
mounted the other way for coloring. They provide fast cutting and good
flexibility.
Sisal buffs are made from a strong cloth and may
be plain or treated, full disk or ventilated with a center metal clinch
ring. These aggressive buffs provide polishing and cutting action and
are most often used on ferrous metals. However, they can be used on
nonferrous metals as well. Sisal buffs soften and become flexible from
the heat generated during the buffing operation.
The safe area rotates away from the workpiece. The unsafe area rotates toward the workpiece.
String
buffs are soft and flexible for use on plastics or precious metals to
avoid leaving buff marks. These buffs are also good for coloring
precious metals since they leave no buff marks.
Buffs can have
up to 100 layers of cloth or plies. They can have soft, medium or hard
densities, which refers to the thread count of the cloth. A higher
thread count indicates a stronger, harder cloth with greater cutting
ability.
Buffing wheels have a variety of designs, and run at
speeds of 5,000 to 8,000 sfm. Each wheel should run for a few seconds
prior to use. Also, buffing wheels have safe and unsafe areas. The safe
area rotates away from the work piece and toward the operator. The
unsafe area rotates toward the work piece. The work piece must be
applied only to the area of the buff that is rotating away from the
work piece. Objects thrown away from a buffing wheel travel at high
speeds, which could result in serious or potentially fatal accidents.
Buffing
compounds actually do the work, however, not the buffing wheel. Do not
apply compounds after the work piece or alone since this wastes
material. When you apply the compound to the buff prior to the work,
you use the work to force the compound into the buff. This is more
efficient and speeds buffing times.
Compounds are composed of
fine abrasive fillers (aluminum oxide, emery, silicon carbide, diamond,
boron carbide, zirconium, etc.) and greases, oils or wax. There are
several types of and uses for buffing compounds.
Tripoli
buffing compound has been around a long time and is one of the most
popular compounds for cutting down and producing a high luster on
nonferrous metals. There are several types of Tripoli compounds,
depending on the type of finish desired and on the substrate.
Chrome
rouges are used for buffing chromium and stainless steel. The cut
varies from mild to fine and sharp. Rouges are made of mild oils and
greases with alumina abrasive.
There is also jeweler's rouge.
Red rouge brings out a high color on gold, silver, sterling, platinum
and brass. White rouge produces a brilliant finish on chromium,
stainless steel, steel, brass and aluminum. Green rouge is used for
fine color buffing on all types of metal.
Steel compounds vary
in color from nearly black to light gray depending on the composition.
These compounds are used to buff iron, steel, stainless steel and some
aluminum and brass castings. Steel compounds vary in cut depending on
the kind of sisal buff used and the amount of grease in the compound.
Stainless steels can be easy to buff or nearly impossible depending on
the condition and type of steel. When buffing stainless, use a dry- or
medium-dry compound on untreated full sisal or laminated sisal buffs.
White
coloring compounds are used for buffing nonferrous metals that are in
good condition to produce a mirror-bright finish. It can also be used
on copper-plated articles when a regular Tripoli compound would be too
severe.
Liquid buffing compounds are used with automatic
machines in high-volume production situations. However, they can also
be used with semi-automatic systems and hand-buffing operations. Spray
guns are used to apply liquid compound pumped from a drum.
The
same abrasive powders are used in spray compositions; however, the
binders are different. Binders are used in oil solutions or water
emulsions so that they are fluid at room temperature.
Polishing.
Polishing is not a precision operation. It is used to remove metal and
produce fine-scale abrasion. Friction generates high temperatures that
can soften the surface of the workpiece. Polishing, which usually
involves several stages, precedes buffing.
Polishing stages
begin with a rough polishing stage using abrasive grit sizes of 36 to
80. Second stage uses abrasives sized from 80 to 120. For the first two
steps the wheels are used dry. The third stage uses 150 size and finer
grit. In this stage, the wheels are slightly worn down and coated with
oil, beeswax or a similar substance. This step is actually part
polishing, part buffing, since more abrasive is usually added with the
grease.
Polishing wheels are made of muslin, canvas, wool or
leather. The most frequently used types are made from sections of sewn
cotton buffs held together with adhesive. These are the most versatile
and have a moderate cost. The hardest wheels are individual canvas
discs cemented together. The softest are muslin discs sewn together.
Pressed
felt wheels have densities that are extremely hard as well as extra
soft. These wheels are used when uniform density is required over the
entire surface of the wheel. The felt face contours easily to fit
irregularly shaped parts.
Cut motion gives a smooth semi-bright surface. Color motion gives a shiny, clear surface.
Leather-faced
wooden wheels are used on flat surfaces when a minimum of flexibility
is needed. These types of wheels are popular with gunsmiths and
manufacturers of cutlery. If greater flexibility is needed, sheepskin
is used.
Compress wheels are created by attaching pieces of
leather or woven fabric endwise to a rigid center section of steel or
plastic so the cloth edges are perpendicular to the side of the wheel.
Since there are no seams, more precise polishing can be accomplished.
Wire
wheels can be constructed from stainless steel, brass or nickel wire.
These wheels remove rust, scale, burrs and coatings, as well as
providing a satin finish or highlighting oxidized finishes on brass,
copper or silver.
Most polishing operation speeds range from
5,000 to 7,500 sfm. High-strength steels and stainless steels are
polished at the higher rates; however, excessively high speeds may burn
workpieces. Wheels that are more rigid are used for coarser polishing
where rapid metal removal is needed. Rigid wheels are also used when
the surface is regular and not contoured or irregularly shaped. Wheels
that are more flexible are better for polishing and use on irregular
surfaces.
Suggestions and pointers.
Wear the proper protective clothing: safety goggles, apron, gloves and respirator. Do not wear loose clothing.
Do not rush into any polishing or buffing job. Go slowly, and handle complex parts carefully.
You
should also know the rpm of your system so that you can calculate the
surface feet per minute (sfm) the wheel is traveling. ¼ × diameter of
the wheel x rpm = spm.
Use a firm yet flexible grip to hold the
workpiece a little below the wheel's center. This is a safety
precaution. If the wheel grabs the workpiece, it will throw the part
away from you.
Since parts are moved back and forth across the
buff or wheel, the buff/wheel should not be wider than the part. Moving
the piece back and forth also releases heat.
Buffing and polishing
may seem like simple operations. You simply hold the work piece to the
wheel until it shines. But there is an art to it, and you need to know
the basics before you can make rough surfaces smooth and dull surfaces
shine.
information fund at the following website
http://www.pfonline.com/articles/109903.html
ciao
Joe
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